23 Feb. 1946 an academy? A. I am not absolutely sure when this came about, but in any case he was at one time President of this Akademie until Hess took off for Scotland. Following Haushofer the Prime Minister of Bavaria became President of the Deutschen Akademie. I know for a fact that nobody in the Military or the Foreign Office or political circles in Japan ever actually tried or made use of Haushofer in any way to advance their ideas in Germany. He was more than anything else a scholar and as such I do not know what influence or what position he had in political matters. However, I do know that through his connections with Hess he was able to at least put forth many of his ideas regarding Japan and get them to the ears of the Fuehrer. Q. Do you know what some of the ideas regarding Japan were that he had? A. I have never actually heard that he ever tried to exert his influence in such a manner as to suggest treaties of one sort or another. On the whole, I believe that he told Hess about the Japanese spirit, the Japanese Army, and such matters that he knew about. Q. Do you have any information regarding any concrete or specific ideas he had as between Japan and Germany? By that I don’t mean necessarily they were official ideas, but what he himself thought and might have told Hess. A. In so far as I know he never advanced any concrete proposals. Being a friend of his, whenever I went to Munich I always invited him to any gatherings, but I have no recollection of him having ever advanced any concrete proposals. Of course, he was pleased with German-Japanese cooperation, but beyond that I do not believe you can say much more. He has written many books and I believe that if you look at these you will find that on the whole they are scholarly tomes. Q. You indicated that he was looked upon in Germany as an expert on Japan. I am wondering how he began to be regarded as such an expert. Do you know? A. As I told you he had been in Japan and I believe that he carried on fairly serious studies while he was here. Later, following the First World War he found himself unemployed and went on further with his studies so that in due course of time through his books and otherwise he began to be known as an expert on Japan. Q. Did he return to Japan in 1919, or thereabouts, that was, following the last World War? do you know what he was doing here during that time? A. I have no recollection of his having come to Japan at that time. He might have for all I know. Q. Do you know of any time that he was in Japan after World War I and before World War II started? A. I am not sure, but as far as I know he never came to Japan. His son was here, that I know. Q. Do you know the name of his son? A. His son was a teacher at the Hochschule fûr Politik in Berlin and I know that he came to Japan either just before or about the time that the Second World War started. I do not know his first name. Q. Do you know why he came to Japan? A. I believe he came to look over conditions in Japan. I do not know his son very well, having met him only two or three times. Q. You indicated that the academy that was headed by Karl Haushofer at or about the time the Nazi’s 133