21 Feb. 1946 Q. Now, yesterday you indicated that you obtained a map of Singapore from the Military Attache and that you delivered that map to Hitler on the occasion of this meeting. Why did he send to you to obtain such a map? Why did he not send some other place for a map of Singapore? A. I do not believe that Germany had in her possession a detailed map of Singapore. Q. What makes you say that? A. There would be no reason for them to make the request if they had had one. Q. What was there about this map of Singapore that was of particular interest to Hitler at that time? A. Hitler, as you may know, was a man who was interested in geography and history and I believe he was interested in seeing a detailed topographical map of Singapore in order to satisfy himself on details. Q. General, if he was interested in a map of Singapore purely from the point of view you have indicated, he could send down to any bookstore and get it. Now, I want to know what was on that map. A. It was a secret map of the Japanese General Staff and had on it such things as gun positions and fortifications, etc. Q. How did that map happen to be in the office of your Military Attache at that time? A. Japanese Military Attaches abroad have in their possession all necessary maps. Q. What do you mean by necessary maps? A. I believe that while it was still the period of peace that it was necessary for the Military Attaches to have in their possession maps of places that might later become one of the centers of interest. Q. Is that a practice that prevails among military authorities of all nations? A. I do not know what the practice is in other countries, but from early days it was the custom to have a good many fairly important maps in the possession of the Military Attaches, at the Embassies in London, Washington, Berlin, Moscow and Rome. Q. General, don’t you suppose that Hitler had a map of Singapore available then in the offices of his own military people? A. I do not believe he did. Q. Do you mean to say that you did have a map of Singapore in great detail and Germany did not have any? A. They had no detailed map. Q. How do you know they did not have a detailed map? A. My reasons for saying this are that the request stated that because they, the Germans, did not have a detailed map in their possession, would we show them one if we had such a map. Q. Yesterday I believe it was or the day before, you told us that it was made known to Hitler by MATSUOKA that in Japan then preparations were in the course of being perfected with respect to possible operations against Singapore. Now, inasmuch as Hitler knew what I have just told you, wasn’t he after the map that had been made as a part of those preparations? 125