25 Feb. 1946 tactical operation maps. There are no maps of a high classification in the offices of the Military Attaches abroad. Q. How much time did you spend with Hitler on the occasion that you showed him this map? A. Not for very long. Q. Would you say two hours or say, ten minutes? A. Ten or twenty minutes. Q. What did Hitler say about the map? A. He asked me what I thought of the difficulties of attacking Singapore and not having been a student of the problem I simply told him that I thought it would be an extremely difficult undertaking. Q. You indicated the other day, I believe that you thought it would take at least six months. A. About six months. Q. General, do you know a Professor Momo? A. No. Q. Do you know Professor Kageyama? A. No. Q. Are you sure, General, that back in 1936, you did not know either of those two men, whose names I just gave you? A. I have no recollection of either name. Q. You don’t remember that back in 1936, these two men made a trip from Japan to Germany in connection with some military matters? A. Had they come on military matters I should have known about it. It seems to me that there might be some error. Q. I don’t think there is any error and I also thought that inasmuch as you were Military Attache at that time you would know about this. A. I shall think it over, but I have no recollection at the moment. Q. The other day, referring to the talks between MATSUOKA and Ribbentrop, you indicated that MATSUOKA spoke to you after he had been in the meeting with Ribbentrop, and you said that MATSUOKA told you nothing of any promises or of any specific details in regard to the matters he talked to you about with Ribbentrop. I am wondering what he did say to you then regarding the meeting he had just had with Ribbentrop. A. As I believe I told you the other day, he related to me how he had spoken to Ribbentrop about the Non-Aggression Pact and other matters of general and mutual interest. Q. What were the other matters of general and mutual interest to which you refer? A. Repeating what I believe I have told you, there were no things that he told me of, which were important enough to stick in my memory today. Q. General, you may continue with your narrative from the point at which we left off the other day. 139